Comments on Nalini Singh's Weblog: Mine to Possess Spoiler Thread

Here's something that made me pause while I re-rea...

2008-05-27T05:41:00.000+12:00

Here's something that made me pause while I re-read MtP: Jonquil described Ashaya's eyes as "wolf" during his interactions with her.

I could be totally wrong from missing something, but I still think that the connection between Dorian and Keenan was due to the literal blood bond created when Keenan was extracted. Dorian didn't recognize Ashaya when he first saw her. And I think Keenan's visits to his father is to his real father. If her son has any changeling blood at all, it's probably not leopard. Hm...

Oh, I'm getting more and more excited for Dorian's...

2008-05-26T21:40:00.000+12:00

Oh, I'm getting more and more excited for Dorian's book with all these new ideas! Just one point: wouldn't Dorian have recognized Ashaya from the 'slab-of-marble' incident?

Sara

Chistina I'm with you -- they just weren't looking...

2008-05-25T19:42:00.000+12:00

Chistina I'm with you -- they just weren't looking for it!! The guys were pretty distracted what with anticipating a Psy attack and cutting Keenan's PsyNet link! Neither Clay nor Dorian so much as sniffed for the bad Psy 'stink' on Keenan much less tried to sense 'his beast.' When Judd speculated on the possibility of Keenan having some Changeling blood, Clay shot it down saying only that if Keenan did, he'd be able to shift, forgetting all about Dorian's latency.

And WHY is Keenan so valuable that even the Council has an interest in his training? And why so much sensory deprivation when transporting a small child? Could Keenan have Changeling style sensory awareness?

I think the Council would be EXTREMELY interested in adding Changeling psysical and sensory strength to their own genetic arsenal -- without the vulnerability of actually shifting. Judd certainly assumed Changelings are vulnerable when shifting.

Oh yeah and Enrique's tortures included experiments on how to FORCE and LOCK a Changeling shift. AND the Psy are now distributing a street drug (a version of Jax?) that FORCES and CONTORTS a Changeling shift.

Will September never come? I would KILL for an advance copy of Hostage to Pleasure!!!

Would they have sensed it if his changeling half w...

2008-05-23T11:15:00.000+12:00

Would they have sensed it if his changeling half was not his dominant half? Especially if they weren't looking for it? I don't think they would expect it going in, and therefore wouldn't try to sense/reach out to his changeling half. *shrugs* another theory, until the book comes out ^_^

tkd-- I thought it significant when I read StS, but since then i have been so busy theorizing other characters/plots, I didn't give it much thought since then. I am now!

Can't be a biological link. Remember Clay and Dori...

2008-05-18T04:57:00.000+12:00

Can't be a biological link. Remember Clay and Dorian didn't sense Keenan's beast? If his mother had been the Psy Dorian had had sex with, Keenan would be half changeling which means they would've sensed it. It was the blood mixing.

Christina, the "slab of marble" incident hardly re...

2008-05-04T11:00:00.000+12:00

Christina, the "slab of marble" incident hardly registered as significant when I first read STS, but as the series has progressed it seems CATACLYSMIC!! Any theories on why a science student Psy would hook up with Dorian? Knowing Psy priorities, it couldn't be just because he's hot looking or has a reputation for skill in the sack. And what characteristic distinguishes Dorian from every other Changeling we've met? Do you see what I see...?

tkd, I didn't even think there might be a biologic...

2008-05-04T08:54:00.000+12:00

tkd, I didn't even think there might be a biological link to it! That would make sense! To your wonderful argument, I am going to add maybe that is why she is so protective of her son (abnormally so, for a psy) because she doesn't want the council to know how he was conceived and is half-changling? Now I am desparate for HtP to find out how this works out. . .

And I've wondered too, about the order of the people leaving the net. First the Laurens with an arrow, a powerful-yet-don't-know-how Sienna, and Walker (I am also waiting to see what his psychic twist is ^_^) and then we started adding all of these other psys into the mix.

It will all be interesting to watch come together.

I LOVE the series and re-reading the books out of ...

2008-05-03T01:39:00.000+12:00

I LOVE the series and re-reading the books out of order has given me some pretty wild suspicions about character relationships.

I suspect that even without a blood bond (isn't an alpha the one to establish one) Dorian's connection to Keenan is actually BIOLOGICAL via his "slab of marble" experience (related in STS).

The Ghost's guilty conscience about past deeds points strongly to Kaleb Krychek, who has the reputation for making his targets go clinically insane (see VOH). His influence on the Darkmind and Netmind may show a strong F-Psy subdesignation. Could he have targetted Judd Lauren's dead sister (see CBI) specifically to position Judd to become a renegade who could help defeat Santano Enrique and stop Protocol I?

SOMEBODY, besides Ms. Singh, seems to be selecting the Psy and their specific order for leaving the PsyNet to eventually save the Psy from Silence. Judd told Siena his suspicion that his sister was targeted because the Lauren Family has strong talents as a group! Add Sasha, Faith, and Ayasha, and the collection of formidable Psy talent outside the Net is undeniable.

I am counting the minutes until Hostage to Pleasure goes on sale!!

My take on the Hawke/Serena deal -Hawke could be o...

2008-04-28T15:55:00.000+12:00

My take on the Hawke/Serena deal -
Hawke could be one of the Changeling Forgotten with F-Psy potential. Then his feeling that she was his mate is in line with his abilities, but since the future changed, so did the possibility of matehood. His psy abilities are blocking his connection to Serena ('cause he's so powerful), on top of that Serena has not broken Silence the way Judd has (she's scared to), so Hawke's wolf might not be able to sense it (just like Brenna's couldn't). Add to the fact that Serena is not part of the pack, only Tobey & Marlee were. Then Judd became one when he became a sentinel/bonded with Brenna. While Walker and Serena are welcomed, nowhere is it noted that they are pack members.

Mercy & Walker (wonder what his psychic twist is)?

Eva: I completely agree with you on the idea that ...

2008-04-13T14:19:00.000+12:00

Eva: I completely agree with you on the idea that Sienna is the one to be the catalyst to Hawke's psyche (whether there is a mind blockade, maybe. I am anxious to find out, lol).

While I think there is a genetic part of social status (at least with Alpha's), I am not sure what will happen with a child from mixed changeling genes. I think it would be a matter of dominant genes from one changeling parent, or something like a liger.

As for Hawke, I think he would have mated with her when they were older. I don't think that is something he would have been drastically wrong about even at 10, since mating seems pretty ingrained and natural to a changeling. I have been rooting for Hawke/Sienna since StS and am eagerly waiting for their story/stories. And I always thought that it would take something drastic, like Sienna leaving the nest, for Hawke to wake up and recognize his feelings or act on them.

I think I am one of the few who liked Tally from the start. It was wrong to tell Clay she died, but she had just gone through years of tramautizing experiences and abuse, and even after everything she still tried to protect Clay through her silence (and, in her own head, by keeping him away from her). Like Sienna needs to learn to stand on her own feet, it was important for Tally to learn to stand on her own, too. After years of abuse where she leaned on Clay, she had to learn to rely on herself (then Clay could enter back into her life and help her build her self-worth and confidence again even better)

..Oh! I forget to sign my opinion.~Eva

2008-04-11T04:08:00.000+12:00

..Oh! I forget to sign my opinion.
~Eva

Siennas story`ll be comming... -This sounds v-e-r-...

2008-04-11T04:06:00.000+12:00

Siennas story`ll be comming... -This sounds v-e-r-y good, Alice!

The "leave thought" of Sienna: I thought more of another changeling pack (allies) than of running around between puplic.
But I`ve the feeling in Mercy`s story, where Hawkes mood `ll get more worse, Nalini`ll show us more. (If Sienna is really Hawke`s).

Anjeni, I understand very good your feelings about Talin in MtP.
- Nalini is really good in creating a complex character.
I´m just reading some of her other books and can only again and again confirm this.

Hello guys! I hope I don't incur the wrath of dieh...

2008-04-09T16:54:00.000+12:00

Hello guys! I hope I don't incur the wrath of diehard MTP fans...but I thoroughly disliked Talin from the beginning. By the end of the book I had a gradual acceptance to the fact she was Clay's mate and that's who he wanted.
The fact that she left him to think she was dead, and then never bothered to find him till she needed help was utterly cruel and selfish.
When Talin did decide to grow a backbone, I thought she was juvenille and spiteful.
That's just my feelings though.
Other than that, I loved the storyline, and the unfolding of events.
I can't wait for Dorian's story.
::sigh::

Eva- So glad Ms. Nalini is a fast writer or I'd be...

2008-04-09T12:31:00.000+12:00

Eva- So glad Ms. Nalini is a fast writer or I'd be tearing my hair out.
Hehehe, Ms. Nalini said Sienna's story will be coming so we can look foward to her story very very soon. Right after Dorian and Mercy...hopefully.
Right now, Sienna is still pretty much sheltered and protected within the pack. Even though I have no idea how she can leave cuz she'll be recognized easily, but I somehow feel she needs to find herself a bit more before settling down (so to speak).
Somehow, the idea of Hawke missing her sounds very appealing. Ah, just thinking about it...hehehe

The age difference isn't bad at all. It's just from personal experience that large gaps does make a huge difference depending on the guys (it's usually always them, haha). Also the fact Ms. Nalini has several stories with larger age differences.

~Alice

Alice, I see - we both really love this girl:-). (...

2008-04-05T01:53:00.000+13:00

Alice, I see - we both really love this girl:-). (I´ll read through her story on one day).

I think the age difference isn`t so bad. With Sienna`s growing age it`ll be relative.

"To leave the nest". - Great idea. Maybe Sienna leave the den for a few months and Hawke is missing something..? (Lovely idea,hm?)

Yes, I´m looking forward to Dorians and Mercys story. (It`s so hard to wait! - Though Nalini is really a fast writer).

~Eva

Eva- You're probably right (thanks for the page nu...

2008-04-04T07:04:00.000+13:00

Eva- You're probably right (thanks for the page numbers, I have them marked down too-teehee). After people mentioned, then it became much more obvious that Sienna (at least) has a thing for Hawke.

During StS, I had assumed Hawke was being a good leader or something like he would with other pack members (especially younger and female). Although Sienna sitting up straight after the "sweeheart" exchange kind of revealed her feelings.

In CBI, it was Judd saying Sienna making it her life's purpose to annoy Hawke (p.74) and the whole door slamming episode that kind of hinted at them.

VoH also hinted a little, if only the fact that Hawke and Sienna being linked together is well known in the pack, enough that Indigo commented on his "being easy" on Sienna. Right before Hawke told Indigo to train Sienna *g* (I do like Indigo). Don't have time to search up the page.

I just never put it together; mainly cuz of the age. He is 32 and she is 17. That is a 15 year age gap. Not too big of a shocker, but still enough for me to not even think of them when I first read StS.

Once in CBI, it became a bit more obvious, but I still didn't think much of it. Sienna and Hawke would be cute together, but I think Sienna need to leave the nest (so to speak) first before she'll be truly able to handle Hawke. Whereas Hawke gotta let go some of his resentment and inner angst/rage/etc.

First though, Dorian. And then Mercy (woohoo). We'll see what the last book is about. Teehee

xoxo,
Alice

Strangely... I thought of the two (Sienna & Hawke)...

2008-04-04T03:13:00.000+13:00

Strangely... I thought of the two (Sienna & Hawke) since StS.
(The short scene at page 280/StS between Hawke and Sienna gave me the feeling that the two get together.
And in CbI/ page 283 "the gerneralization thing" looks like a connection).
...But maybe I`m wrong...
~Eva

Eva-I found the book, but they don't really sell i...

2008-04-03T11:45:00.000+13:00

Eva-I found the book, but they don't really sell it in english anymore. I'll probably check the local library. As for the genes, I think it should play some minor role, but it's up to Ms. Nalini to say...in the next book...and the next...oh, I want more to read now!

Sayuri- I agree that Hawke would have mated with that girl had she grown up (if she really was his mate, cuz he was 10...so, maybe he made a mistake?), but I believe actual Mate Bonds only happen once. The other option is to just mate with someone like what Nate's parents did. They weren't true mates, but they mated.
So, in the case with Sienna, if Hawke was to mate with her, it is possible, just not the actual bond thingy. Am I even making sense?

Tally is just Tally. I didn't know if I could like her in the beginning because, let's be honest here, she did tell Clay she died and that was just horribly cruel. At the same time, I could understand that she's had terrible childhood and it's taken her a long time to get better. Still, it was hard to give her for abandoning Clay. Anyhoo, my point is, I could understand and sympathize with her but she's not my favorite out of all the characters. *grin*

We all know I have a special place for Sienna...and Sascha, of course. And Brenna. They're my top faves. Okay, so I love them all.

One thing about the Sienna/Hawke thing. I wouldn't even have thought of the two of them until the people here (at CBI's thread) pointed it out. I do think there's a higher likelihood for them, but I think I'll be happy to just see everyone there happy. Minus the psychopaths...and sociopaths.

Very excited about the next books! Mercy mercy mercy. Teehee. So excited.

xoxo

Hmm. Tally never really grew on me to the point th...

2008-04-03T11:02:00.000+13:00

Hmm. Tally never really grew on me to the point that I really like her a lot even understading all the things she had gone through. She seemed a litte too prickly/touchy/needy to me.

y two pennies worth in about Hawke and the re-mati...

2008-04-01T09:49:00.000+13:00

y two pennies worth in about Hawke and the re-mating buisiness.

I may be completely wrong but the way I read it was that Hawke would have mated with her if she hadn't been killed. At least that was his intention but they never actually were mated. The reason Hawke hasn't mated since is that he is basically greiving still.

SO he would be free to mate with Sienna. He just needs to stop living in the past.

Just a quick word to say I loved this book, even though I thought I was going to hate it for some reason. I thought Tally was a great character and a great foil for Clay who had real hidden depths.

Alice, .. your theory sounds interesting. Maybe an...

2008-03-26T04:51:00.000+13:00

Alice, .. your theory sounds interesting. Maybe ancestor genes play an important role, too?

I read the wolf book in german. The titel is " Der Wolf" by Shaun Ellis and Monty Sloan. The autors are Americans, so it should be available in englisch. - It`s a very interesting illustrated book. (I learnt a lot new things about wolves).
~Eva

Samantha- I kept asking Ms. Nalini during the chat...

2008-03-25T09:41:00.000+13:00

Samantha- I kept asking Ms. Nalini during the chat and she won't tell us! She says we'll learn about it soon enough, but no straight answer!

Aymless- Doesn't it sound possible though? If Marine worked for the Council and the Council has little psychopath murders as pets; Marine being vocal about Protocal I while helping the Ghost with information, it's sounds plausible that the Council would want to hush Marine while at the same time, satisfying the killing urge of said psyco.

Eva- I'd like to agree, but am hesitant. In the books, it does show that psy/human and changeling/human children usually exhibit the unique powers of the parent with psy or changeling abilities. At the same time, Psy/psy children's abilies not only vary, but also gain multiple abilies, right? So, if we apply Changeling/changeling with the psy/psy category, than would it be possible to have both traits?
P.S. Which wolf book are you reading? It sounds interesting.

Sya- I also thought about the possiblity of cross-species, or having both options. If only Ms. Nalini would tell us now. >_<
I think the "smell" of Kit being alpha deals with more his own innate abilities than with genetics. If it was genetic, then it would be more along the lines of alpha producing alphas. My guess though.
I concur with your Ghost explanation. Why else would a Council member meet at some cafe so easily? If not the Ghost, Kaleb is someone related to him (either working together, or know of him). I didn't even think about his secretary. Good point, but I think we're correct to say the Ghost is a guy. Especially given all the conversation Judd's had with him, Ms. Nalini used male referencing.

One thing about the DarkMind, I was thinking back about Faith and the NetMind. Maybe the DarkMind was trying to contact her like the NetMind was, but Faith was unable to deal with it like Kaleb since she was more sheltered (IMO). The Arrows may follow Ming, but not all of them are happy. Judd defected. When he got the medics to take Jax off the Arrows, the others didn't complain. Kaleb is still most likely to be the Ghost.

I really want to read the books. This wait is really hard. I've been re-reading like crazy. Need more...Wanna know about Sienna...and Mercy. Funny how I'm more into the women in these books.

Mostly, I've been lurking here, enjoying all the t...

2008-03-24T12:51:00.000+13:00

Mostly, I've been lurking here, enjoying all the theories that everyone is putting forth.

On the mating of two different changelings: I agree with the idea that the dominant genes will determine what the kid will be like. But I also speculate that a changeling cross will be a lot like different species crosses in real life (mules, zebra hybrids, wolf-dogs, ligers, etc.) Then again, it would be interesting if the kid had the option of changing into either a wolf or a leopard.

Also, I do not think dominance of genes would depend on alpha/beta/omega status which is socially based, not genetic. (Although Ms. Singh does mention in her books that Kit has a "whiff of future alpha" about him. Is this literal? If so--then maybe among changelings, there is a genetic component to social status.)

On theories about the identity of the Ghost--I doubt it is anyone who doesn't have direct access to the decisions made by the Council. This rules out Faith's father Anthony who was only invited to the Council in MtP by Kaleb. Also in MtP, the Ghost has a meeting with an official at a posh restaurant--which to me lowers the possibility of a rogue Arrow (other than Judd). The Arrows follow Ming's orders and it is doubtful that one would have a meeting with an official rather be sent in as a bodyguard. And I have a strong feeling that the Ghost is male, not female. So the Ghost would most likely be Kaleb despite his ties to Enrique. He knew about Protocol I. He's against the Scotts. He brought in Anthony into the Council. He has contact with the NetMind and the DarkMind, particularly controlling the latter--which indicates that he cares enough about the Psy race to prevent it from running amok.

Something I've been wondering about ever since CBI--what does everyone think of Kaleb's senior assistant, Silver Mercant? She certainly has access to sensitive information and she would have to be careful in choosing what info to leak or she would compromise her position. If my impression of the Ghost's gender wasn't so strong, I'd put my bet on her.

..By the way I`ve read a book about wolves. The fe...

2008-03-24T07:27:00.000+13:00

..By the way I`ve read a book about wolves. The female alpha wolf is supposed to take over the hunt tactic.

~Eva

Samantha, this is a good question. - Hm, ...I esti...

2008-03-24T07:15:00.000+13:00

Samantha, this is a good question. - Hm, ...I estimate this depends on the dominant genes. So I would say it`s depending on
e.g. Alpha-, Betha- or Omega-Status.
~Eva